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  • GM BaseCoat ClearCoat ???

    What year did GM start using BC/CC paint?
    More importantly, which G.Bodies would have had BC/CC paint?
    My buddy told me that 87s & 88s had it & everything 86 & earlier did not....
    I did a quick Google search & ended up with more ?s than answers....

    Here is another ??, if you have a car with Laquer paint should you paint strip the entire thing down to bare metal before rePainting it? Just looking for opinions on this one...Thanks in advance.......FADER

  • #2
    1987 they started the BC/CC finish.
    I would think you would have to remove the laquer or at least take it down enough so that it wouldn't crack through the newer paint job.
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    • #3
      Cool, thank you

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      • #4
        Some of the rpo stickers say if there laquer both of my 87's are laquer i dont think i have ever seen a gbody with factory base clear. I think gm went from laquer to urethane single stage then to base clear

        As far as the paint goes it should be sanded off so it dont crack more. I have seen people paint over laquer but havent seen the car since to see how well it held up.

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        • #5
          Hmmm...I am definitely gonna paint strip my 442 down to bare metal....ahhhh, Paint Stripper, Beer, & loud Music.....I won't even notice how sore my hands are!

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          • #6
            80 grit and a da would work too

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            • #7
              That's what I started doing on my Regal, I was trying to take it easy & I still ended up gouging the metal with my 80 grit discs.....I am guessing a High Build Primer will cover it up....I am no body man, YET......I'm sure the DA sander is quicker....Maybe I was going to quickly

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              • #8
                My 87 442 is factory base/clear.
                The clear coat is peeling off bad.
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                85 442 White/Claret - T-tops
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                83 H/O #1607 Sand Gray - T-tops
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fader View Post
                  That's what I started doing on my Regal, I was trying to take it easy & I still ended up gouging the metal with my 80 grit discs.....I am guessing a High Build Primer will cover it up....I am no body man, YET......I'm sure the DA sander is quicker....Maybe I was going to quickly

                  80 grit will gouge the metal if your grinding the paint off. I you use a da it wont be as aggressive. When you sand it off hold the da flat and it will make the dents visible. Then fix the dents spray with filler primer. Stripper will work but i dont like it its messy and hazardous. Then when your done your supposed to treat the metal.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 88hurstolds View Post
                    My 87 442 is factory base/clear.
                    The clear coat is peeling off bad.
                    Its wierd the clear is pealing gm whites in the late 80s early 90s were natorious for peeling away form the sealer.

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                    • #11
                      My car is black and is peeling bad.
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                      85 442 White/Blue - T-tops
                      85 442 White/Claret - T-tops
                      85 442 White/Sage
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                      83 H/O #2400 Sand Gray - Sunroof
                      83 H/O #1607 Sand Gray - T-tops
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                      • #12
                        My 87 was originally lacquer, but I think someone tried to paint over it...most of it peeled off:

                        http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/100_0052.jpg

                        Even though the paint peeled off, there is still a finish under there, although it is cracked, and the metalflake has rusted:

                        http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...2/104_0386.jpg

                        http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...03111546_2.jpg

                        I'd like to get the old coat of paint off of the other side, and try to at least make it look decent, until I can afford to paint it. Did the lacquer finish have a clearcoat on it to start with?
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                        • #13
                          Your stripes are factory, I highly doubt someone found NOS ones for a repaint.
                          Thats clear coat peeling, not paint, looks exactly like what mine is doing.
                          Theres good paint underneath it, mine looks the same but black. Its as if I could lightly scuff it and reclear it.
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                          88 H/O #1 of 4
                          88 CSC White/Claret - T-tops
                          88 H/O Triple Black
                          87 442 Black/Gray - T-tops
                          85 442 White/Blue - T-tops
                          85 442 White/Blue - T-tops
                          85 442 White/Claret - T-tops
                          85 442 White/Sage
                          84 H/O Aero Commemorative #2199 - Sunroof
                          83 H/O #2400 Sand Gray - Sunroof
                          83 H/O #1607 Sand Gray - T-tops
                          83 H/O #727 Maple
                          "Keep them Rockets lit!"

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                          • #14
                            What is really weird about this paint job is what you see on the right side, at the stripe (check the pic where I am pointing). The surface of the stripe is below the paint in one section, like the stripe was masked, and above the paint in another, like it should be, and like the stripe on the left side. Why would there be two different surfaces around the stripes (high and low)?

                            Yes, it does look like it could be rescuffed and sealed...would take some work, but I don't know that that's possible.
                            '76 Cutlass S 350 (1981-83)
                            '79 Cutlass Supreme 260 (1983-85)
                            '79 Cutlass Supreme 350 Chevy (1989-1993)
                            '77 Cutlass Salon 350 (1996-present)
                            '98 Bravada - green - (2005) RIP
                            '98 Bravada - black - (2005-2011) sold
                            '87 442 (May 2010) undergoing restoration

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